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[9:11pm] jokeefe: Ok, sorry for the delay - agenda: http://masspirates.org/wiki/August_22nd,_2013_IRC_Meeting
[9:12pm] jokeefe: ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville
[9:12pm] Igel: oh no it went to... email
[9:12pm] js0000: Igel: i've been communicating with srevilak jokeefe about this
[9:12pm] Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero, Medway
[9:12pm] js0000: john saylor 'watch city' [waltham]
[9:12pm] • Igel fell off the planet bout it
[9:13pm] JCFiero: Jason Fiero - Medway MA
[9:13pm] srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington
[9:13pm] Igel: William Fleurant, Arlington MA
[9:13pm] Bluestreak: oneiros
[9:13pm] oneiros: Yes?
[9:13pm] Bluestreak: ID?
[9:13pm] Kendra: Kendra Moyer Arlington
[9:14pm] jokeefe: as much as you want
[9:14pm] MassKopimiPP: Adam Seaman  Southwick
[9:14pm] oneiros: Dragone, Deerfield (Good enough? New to this)
[9:14pm] Bluestreak: I'm fine with that
[9:14pm] Bluestreak: Adam, I thought you were leaving us?
[9:15pm] srevilak: MassKopimiPP changed his mind
[9:15pm] jokeefe: thank you oneiros
[9:15pm] jokeefe: good to have someone from well outside Boston
[9:15pm] oneiros: Sure - I've not been in a meeting before, so my apologies if I'm a bit slow to catch up
[9:15pm] Bluestreak: Glad to hear it
[9:15pm] MassKopimiPP:
[9:15pm] js0000: no worries, we're all slow
[9:15pm] jokeefe: Ok, events
[9:16pm] jokeefe: Got the Cryptoparty on Sat.
[9:16pm] jokeefe: ACLU posted about it
[9:16pm] Bluestreak: Never got one damn flyer up sorry
[9:16pm] Bluestreak: too sick
[9:16pm] js0000: i think cryptoparties may be very helpful to masspirates
[9:16pm] Bluestreak: Kevin G reached out
[9:16pm] Bluestreak: He wants to help in the future
[9:16pm] jokeefe: no problem, Bluestreak, there is next month
[9:17pm] jokeefe: 8/24 Boston Peace Festival - anyone willing to table it?  i know it is short notice.
[9:17pm] Bluestreak: I will ask Kate to update her flyer with the new info for Sept
[9:17pm] • srevilak is very determined to make cryptoparties a monthly thing
[9:17pm] Bluestreak: ++
[9:18pm] jokeefe: srevilak, agreed.  may want to have one be a train the trainers
[9:18pm] jokeefe: so we broaden the people who can do them.
[9:18pm] MassKopimiPP: i cant make the cryptoparty, ill be at hampton beach but i hope it becomes a monthly thing, id like to make it to one definately, 2 hr trip or so
[9:18pm] Igel: you are busy tomorrow srevilak
[9:18pm] Bluestreak: Like I said Kevin volunteered, Steve, reach out to him
[9:19pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: can you send me his email?
[9:19pm] Bluestreak: Right way
[9:19pm] srevilak: thx
[9:19pm] Bluestreak: kevin@ageispolis.net
[9:21pm] Bluestreak: AND I emailed it to ya.
[9:21pm] Igel: yop
[9:22pm] jokeefe: not hearing anyone can make the Boston Peace Festival.  Will see if MassOps will be there.
[9:23pm] Bluestreak: I think I have been going out too much. I shouldn't have gone to the Arroyo event
[9:23pm] Bluestreak: I paid for it today.
[9:23pm] jokeefe: General Meeting, 9/1 or 9/8, Haven't heard from everyone.  srevilak cannot make either.  Waiting until 9/22 is pretty late.
[9:23pm] Bluestreak: 9/1 works best for us
[9:24pm] jokeefe: most votes for 9/1, does that work or move to 9/22 or 9/29?
[9:24pm] js0000: i cannot make 9/1 but i'm optional
[9:24pm] Bluestreak: That will be 8 weeks
[9:24pm] jokeefe: 9/1 then
[9:24pm] oneiros: Are we talking meatspace or here?
[9:24pm] Bluestreak: LOL
[9:24pm] Bluestreak: meatspace
[9:24pm] oneiros: Oh
[9:24pm] oneiros: Rats
[9:25pm] jokeefe: sorry, srevilak, could be bring you in via video or audio?
[9:25pm] jokeefe: it is outside Boston oneiros
[9:25pm] Igel: thats funny heh
[9:25pm] Bluestreak: We should totally video conference
[9:25pm] Bluestreak: How Pirate is that
[9:25pm] Bluestreak: ?
[9:25pm] js0000: or somekinda link
[9:25pm] js0000: audio
[9:25pm] Igel: heh
[9:25pm] js0000: text
[9:25pm] js0000: something
[9:26pm] oneiros: Boston is a bit of a hard sell for me at the moment
[9:26pm] js0000: right, we have the computers and network ...
[9:26pm] Bluestreak: Deerfield to Medway? about 2 hours sry
[9:26pm] Bluestreak: We are working on moving west
[9:26pm] oneiros: No need to apologize, I'm quite the outsider here
[9:26pm] Bluestreak: Scorpion Bowl is in Holyoke
[9:26pm] MassKopimiPP: good
[9:26pm] Kendra: i am going to be out of town again.  I can video conference in on 9/1..
[9:26pm] Igel: oneiros: your the man now dogg! moving headquarters to you ehh heh..
[9:26pm] Bluestreak: November 9th
[9:26pm] oneiros: LOL - well, UMass campus is just down the road
[9:27pm] Bluestreak: mark your calendar
[9:27pm] srevilak: jokeefe: no problem.  I *may* be able to make it on 9/1.  Will let you know
[9:27pm] jokeefe: thanks
[9:27pm] jokeefe: anyone know of a good video chat system, beside google hangout?
[9:27pm] MassKopimiPP: im a no show but only because of distance
[9:27pm] jokeefe: and skype
[9:28pm] Bluestreak: LOL
[9:28pm] js0000: maybe pirate account can tweet #masspirates
[9:28pm] oneiros: Well, funny you should ask
[9:28pm] MassKopimiPP: you could try Unsene
[9:28pm] oneiros: Jitsi, perhaps
[9:28pm] Igel: oneiros i was mailing ppl re: univ to recruit masspirate votes
[9:28pm] JCFiero: lol what not use Google hangout.. so easy.. so compromised?\
[9:28pm] jokeefe: well, if we do a video chat, would could always post it so it wouldn't matter if the NSA gets it
[9:28pm] Bluestreak: Exactly
[9:28pm] jokeefe: party of open and all
[9:29pm] Bluestreak: Hangout Jason and I could set up here
[9:29pm] Kendra: https://jitsi.org/
[9:29pm] MassKopimiPP: https://unsene.com/#
[9:29pm] Bluestreak: We were JUST talking about setting up a hangout when jokeefe said beside google hangout lol
[9:29pm] jokeefe: duh, thanks Kendra
[9:29pm] Bluestreak: IDK how to USE those
[9:29pm] MassKopimiPP: never tried video tho fyi
[9:30pm] jokeefe: lets do a test and see what works.
[9:30pm] oneiros: Something that doesn't require an account with a megacorp would be good, though, regardless of posting the resulting feed
[9:30pm] Bluestreak: Who knows how to use those?
[9:30pm] Bluestreak: and will they come out early to help us set it up?
[9:30pm] js0000: maybe also consider lower bandwidth tech too
[9:30pm] jokeefe: moving on - Freedom Rally, September 14 & 15 - who will table?
[9:30pm] Bluestreak: Jason and I are spearheading that
[9:31pm] Bluestreak: set up both days but we NEED SUPPORT
[9:31pm] MassKopimiPP: whats the freedom rally?
[9:31pm] Bluestreak: step up ppl important event, lots of exposure
[9:31pm] MassKopimiPP: im new to mass in general so excuse my ignorance guys
[9:31pm] Bluestreak: Boston's version og HempFest
[9:31pm] oneiros: Also -where- is it... oh
[9:31pm] Bluestreak: of
[9:31pm] Bluestreak: on the common
[9:31pm] JCFiero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Rally
[9:31pm] oneiros: Nevermind - need to steer clear of raves
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: orly? OK
[9:32pm] jokeefe: way more tame than a rave
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: Just ppl at tables
[9:32pm] jokeefe: anyone able to write up a post on us being there?
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: and stoners blazing
[9:32pm] Igel: there will be metal bands.
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: Yeah, this is out baby
[9:32pm] Igel: waaf goes, etc..
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: our
[9:33pm] Bluestreak: I will get one out tonight
[9:33pm] Bluestreak: If Jason feeds me
[9:33pm] Bluestreak: :-DDD
[9:33pm] Bluestreak: lol
[9:34pm] jokeefe: need a form.  will set one up for you.
[9:34pm] MassKopimiPP: id love to help at FR but I may be in NY visiting family
[9:34pm] jokeefe: for those not on face book
[9:34pm] Bluestreak: jokeefe form for me?
[9:34pm] oneiros: Form?
[9:34pm] jokeefe: for the FR post
[9:34pm] jokeefe: sign up
[9:34pm] Bluestreak: OK I'll be waiting on you
[9:35pm] MassKopimiPP: im a maybe for freedom rally
[9:35pm] jokeefe: Boston Software Freedom Day is Sat., Sept. 21st, 10:00 - 11:00 Protect Your Privacy in the Digital Age, by srevilak
[9:36pm] jokeefe: great MassKopimiPP
[9:36pm] jokeefe: you got a website MassKopimiPP
[9:36pm] jokeefe: ?
[9:36pm] Bluestreak: Sure hope you can help table.
[9:37pm] Igel: srevilak: i thought that was tomorrow ----^
[9:37pm] jokeefe: I will be there Sunday at least
[9:37pm] Igel: saying yo were going o be pretty busy
[9:37pm] jokeefe: Not sure what Sat. schedule is yet
[9:38pm] jokeefe: Sept is busy
[9:39pm] Bluestreak: So long as you can spell us for a couple of hours on Sunday, that would be great
[9:39pm] jokeefe: srevilak, LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting is 9/28, roughly?
[9:39pm] jokeefe: will do, Bluestreak
[9:39pm] jokeefe: hopefully more
[9:40pm] srevilak: jokeefe: you mean linux meeting with Will Rico?
[9:40pm] Bluestreak: OK we may have a conflict the weekend of the 28th.
[9:40pm] jokeefe: yes
[9:40pm] Bluestreak: Jason and I have a thing in NH
[9:40pm] jokeefe: good for you
[9:40pm] srevilak: 9/28 is cjdns cryptoparty
[9:40pm] Bluestreak: I KNOW
[9:40pm] Bluestreak: We really wanted to do that!
[9:40pm] jokeefe: ok, sorry, I was confused
[9:41pm] Bluestreak: No we have a conflict
[9:41pm] Bluestreak: OK wait
[9:41pm] Bluestreak: NVM
[9:41pm] Bluestreak: No we are commited to the thing in NH
[9:41pm] srevilak: jokeefe: you're speaking to boston linux desktop group on Nov 6th
[9:43pm] jokeefe: Do you have details on the cjdns cryptoparty?  I cannot find them in my email
[9:43pm] srevilak: It's 9/28.  I have to work on logistics.  Will do this weekend
[9:43pm] Igel: sunday you should have em
[9:44pm] oneiros: Please keep me in the loop on the cjdns gig
[9:44pm] MassKopimiPP: so the next cryptoparty is 9/28?
[9:44pm] jokeefe: yes, after the one on Sat.
[9:44pm] Igel: following this saturday
[9:44pm] srevilak: MassKopimiPP: yes 9/28.  cjdns cryptoparty
[9:44pm] jokeefe: ok, last of the events - Digital Media Conference, Cambridge, Oct. 25-27
[9:45pm] jokeefe: Meeting with Jason tomorrow.
[9:45pm] jokeefe: to talk logistics
[9:45pm] Bluestreak: That looks to be really cool
[9:45pm] Bluestreak: You need ppl to table right?
[9:45pm] jokeefe: probably, and be on panels, do crypto party, etc.
[9:46pm] jokeefe: panel suggestions?
[9:46pm] jokeefe: here is the link to it - http://digitalmediaconference.org/2013/
[9:46pm] Igel: cool
[9:47pm] Kendra: NSA Nightmares, Bradley Manning Verdict, Freedom of the Press Under the Surveillance state
[9:47pm] srevilak: jokeefe: we could talk about `alternatives'.  e.g. https://prism-break.org/
[9:48pm] srevilak: What would it take for _you_ to dump your NSA-compliant service provider?
[9:48pm] oneiros: I would suggest a panel on educating the new generations as a part of general curriculum, but I couldn't offer to actually give such a panel, so...
[9:48pm] Bluestreak: I am also interested in "the fifth estate"
[9:48pm] Bluestreak: The new journalism
[9:48pm] jokeefe: good ideas
[9:49pm] Bluestreak: War on whistleblowers
[9:49pm] jokeefe: Seeing that Jason is in the fourth/fifth estate, it will be covered
[9:49pm] srevilak: Taking your data elsewhere as a form of civil disobedience
[9:49pm] oneiros: Upping the SNR as civil disobedience?
[9:50pm] srevilak: oneiros: SNR?
[9:50pm] Bluestreak: Not many ppl can move their data easily srevilak
[9:50pm] oneiros: Signal-to-noise-ratio
[9:50pm] Bluestreak: Still don't know what you mean oneiros
[9:50pm] Igel: interference
[9:50pm] Kendra: Protocol for Activists Using the Online Services Under the Surveillance State
[9:50pm] oneiros: Ok, well, simple way is that all the surveillance that goes on does so at a digital level - heuristics tools and algorithms and such
[9:51pm] Igel: which is this Kendra?
[9:51pm] Igel: sounds centralized
[9:51pm] oneiros: So instead of hiding everything from the NSA, Google, etc, you intentionally give them massive amounts of noise
[9:51pm] Kendra: Just suggesting panel topics for the digital conference
[9:51pm] jokeefe: could also ask the panelists from Government Power in 2020 and Open Government to be on panels
[9:51pm] MassKopimiPP: Attack on alternative sources of media  http://www.vice.com/read/the-new-media-shield-law-only-shields-corporate-media
[9:51pm] Igel: its relevant
[9:51pm] oneiros: Searching things you don't care about, +1'ing and Liking and Retweeting garbage
[9:52pm] jokeefe: good suggestions, I'll bring them up and see which ones they like.
[9:52pm] Bluestreak: Exactly MassKopimiPP
[9:52pm] Igel: what about TT?
[9:53pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: agreed.  Moving data is not easy.  So, what will sufficiently motivate people to do it?
[9:53pm] Bluestreak: what a time sink oneiros
[9:53pm] oneiros: Teaching them how easy moving data actually is?
[9:53pm] jokeefe: peer pressure
[9:53pm] oneiros: Bluestreak: It can easily be automated
[9:53pm] Bluestreak: Making it easy for them srevilak
[9:53pm] oneiros: Firefox plugin "DoNotTrack" is one way
[9:53pm] • Igel lost waht moving data
[9:54pm] Bluestreak: I smell a crypto party!
[9:54pm] Igel: is it on the site?
[9:54pm] Igel: heh...

Revision as of 21:55, 22 August 2013

Agenda

  1. Events
    1. 8/24 CryptoParty, 1pm - 3pm - e5, Boston - 9 Hamilton Place at Park st next to the Orpheum
    2. 8/24 Boston Peace Festival?
    3. General Meeting, 9/1?
    4. Freedom Rally, September 14 & 15 - Need organizers, announcement for volunteers
    5. Constitution Day Speakout, September 17, Boston
    6. Boston Software Freedom Day, Sat., Sept. 21st, 9:30am - 5:30pm
    7. CryptoParty, Sat., Sept. 28th, ?
    8. Digital Media Conference, Cambridge, Oct. 25-27
    9. LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting, Weds Nov 6th, evening, Jamie speaking on the "Dangers of the Surveillance State
    10. LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting, Weds Dec 4th, evening, Steve speaking
  2. Post-convention tasks
  3. Endorsements
  4. August Tasks http://piratenpad.de/SKwdoMqk26
    1. College Coordinators (black_van)
    2. Research what qualifies as an acceptable signature and other ballot access requirements
    3. Research DB & Community Site (Gregg)
    4. Get a list of the colleges in Mass. and what their requirements are to start a Pirate group (Kendra/William)
    5. Identify dates and requirements for 2014 Town & 2013 City elections
    6. Divide Mass. into 27 districts (Jason/John/William)
    7. Setup voter reg app (John)
    8. Min materials for College Groups
    9. Make How to Party videos
    10. Develop draft platform / planks
    11. Media strategy

Participants

  • jokeefe
  • Igel
  • Kendra
  • srevilak

Observers:

  • davidd
  • Shidash
  • oneirosFade

Summary

Meeting Minutes

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[9:11pm] jokeefe: Ok, sorry for the delay - agenda: http://masspirates.org/wiki/August_22nd,_2013_IRC_Meeting [9:12pm] jokeefe: ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville [9:12pm] Igel: oh no it went to... email [9:12pm] js0000: Igel: i've been communicating with srevilak jokeefe about this [9:12pm] Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero, Medway [9:12pm] js0000: john saylor 'watch city' [waltham] [9:12pm] • Igel fell off the planet bout it [9:13pm] JCFiero: Jason Fiero - Medway MA [9:13pm] srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington [9:13pm] Igel: William Fleurant, Arlington MA [9:13pm] Bluestreak: oneiros [9:13pm] oneiros: Yes? [9:13pm] Bluestreak: ID? [9:13pm] Kendra: Kendra Moyer Arlington [9:14pm] jokeefe: as much as you want [9:14pm] MassKopimiPP: Adam Seaman Southwick [9:14pm] oneiros: Dragone, Deerfield (Good enough? New to this) [9:14pm] Bluestreak: I'm fine with that [9:14pm] Bluestreak: Adam, I thought you were leaving us? [9:15pm] srevilak: MassKopimiPP changed his mind [9:15pm] jokeefe: thank you oneiros [9:15pm] jokeefe: good to have someone from well outside Boston [9:15pm] oneiros: Sure - I've not been in a meeting before, so my apologies if I'm a bit slow to catch up [9:15pm] Bluestreak: Glad to hear it [9:15pm] MassKopimiPP: [9:15pm] js0000: no worries, we're all slow [9:15pm] jokeefe: Ok, events [9:16pm] jokeefe: Got the Cryptoparty on Sat. [9:16pm] jokeefe: ACLU posted about it [9:16pm] Bluestreak: Never got one damn flyer up sorry [9:16pm] Bluestreak: too sick [9:16pm] js0000: i think cryptoparties may be very helpful to masspirates [9:16pm] Bluestreak: Kevin G reached out [9:16pm] Bluestreak: He wants to help in the future [9:16pm] jokeefe: no problem, Bluestreak, there is next month [9:17pm] jokeefe: 8/24 Boston Peace Festival - anyone willing to table it? i know it is short notice. [9:17pm] Bluestreak: I will ask Kate to update her flyer with the new info for Sept [9:17pm] • srevilak is very determined to make cryptoparties a monthly thing [9:17pm] Bluestreak: ++ [9:18pm] jokeefe: srevilak, agreed. may want to have one be a train the trainers [9:18pm] jokeefe: so we broaden the people who can do them. [9:18pm] MassKopimiPP: i cant make the cryptoparty, ill be at hampton beach but i hope it becomes a monthly thing, id like to make it to one definately, 2 hr trip or so [9:18pm] Igel: you are busy tomorrow srevilak [9:18pm] Bluestreak: Like I said Kevin volunteered, Steve, reach out to him [9:19pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: can you send me his email? [9:19pm] Bluestreak: Right way [9:19pm] srevilak: thx [9:19pm] Bluestreak: kevin@ageispolis.net [9:21pm] Bluestreak: AND I emailed it to ya. [9:21pm] Igel: yop [9:22pm] jokeefe: not hearing anyone can make the Boston Peace Festival. Will see if MassOps will be there. [9:23pm] Bluestreak: I think I have been going out too much. I shouldn't have gone to the Arroyo event [9:23pm] Bluestreak: I paid for it today. [9:23pm] jokeefe: General Meeting, 9/1 or 9/8, Haven't heard from everyone. srevilak cannot make either. Waiting until 9/22 is pretty late. [9:23pm] Bluestreak: 9/1 works best for us [9:24pm] jokeefe: most votes for 9/1, does that work or move to 9/22 or 9/29? [9:24pm] js0000: i cannot make 9/1 but i'm optional [9:24pm] Bluestreak: That will be 8 weeks [9:24pm] jokeefe: 9/1 then [9:24pm] oneiros: Are we talking meatspace or here? [9:24pm] Bluestreak: LOL [9:24pm] Bluestreak: meatspace [9:24pm] oneiros: Oh [9:24pm] oneiros: Rats [9:25pm] jokeefe: sorry, srevilak, could be bring you in via video or audio? [9:25pm] jokeefe: it is outside Boston oneiros [9:25pm] Igel: thats funny heh [9:25pm] Bluestreak: We should totally video conference [9:25pm] Bluestreak: How Pirate is that [9:25pm] Bluestreak: ? [9:25pm] js0000: or somekinda link [9:25pm] js0000: audio [9:25pm] Igel: heh [9:25pm] js0000: text [9:25pm] js0000: something [9:26pm] oneiros: Boston is a bit of a hard sell for me at the moment [9:26pm] js0000: right, we have the computers and network ... [9:26pm] Bluestreak: Deerfield to Medway? about 2 hours sry [9:26pm] Bluestreak: We are working on moving west [9:26pm] oneiros: No need to apologize, I'm quite the outsider here [9:26pm] Bluestreak: Scorpion Bowl is in Holyoke [9:26pm] MassKopimiPP: good [9:26pm] Kendra: i am going to be out of town again. I can video conference in on 9/1.. [9:26pm] Igel: oneiros: your the man now dogg! moving headquarters to you ehh heh.. [9:26pm] Bluestreak: November 9th [9:26pm] oneiros: LOL - well, UMass campus is just down the road [9:27pm] Bluestreak: mark your calendar [9:27pm] srevilak: jokeefe: no problem. I *may* be able to make it on 9/1. Will let you know [9:27pm] jokeefe: thanks [9:27pm] jokeefe: anyone know of a good video chat system, beside google hangout? [9:27pm] MassKopimiPP: im a no show but only because of distance [9:27pm] jokeefe: and skype [9:28pm] Bluestreak: LOL [9:28pm] js0000: maybe pirate account can tweet #masspirates [9:28pm] oneiros: Well, funny you should ask [9:28pm] MassKopimiPP: you could try Unsene [9:28pm] oneiros: Jitsi, perhaps [9:28pm] Igel: oneiros i was mailing ppl re: univ to recruit masspirate votes [9:28pm] JCFiero: lol what not use Google hangout.. so easy.. so compromised?\ [9:28pm] jokeefe: well, if we do a video chat, would could always post it so it wouldn't matter if the NSA gets it [9:28pm] Bluestreak: Exactly [9:28pm] jokeefe: party of open and all [9:29pm] Bluestreak: Hangout Jason and I could set up here [9:29pm] Kendra: https://jitsi.org/ [9:29pm] MassKopimiPP: https://unsene.com/# [9:29pm] Bluestreak: We were JUST talking about setting up a hangout when jokeefe said beside google hangout lol [9:29pm] jokeefe: duh, thanks Kendra [9:29pm] Bluestreak: IDK how to USE those [9:29pm] MassKopimiPP: never tried video tho fyi [9:30pm] jokeefe: lets do a test and see what works. [9:30pm] oneiros: Something that doesn't require an account with a megacorp would be good, though, regardless of posting the resulting feed [9:30pm] Bluestreak: Who knows how to use those? [9:30pm] Bluestreak: and will they come out early to help us set it up? [9:30pm] js0000: maybe also consider lower bandwidth tech too [9:30pm] jokeefe: moving on - Freedom Rally, September 14 & 15 - who will table? [9:30pm] Bluestreak: Jason and I are spearheading that [9:31pm] Bluestreak: set up both days but we NEED SUPPORT [9:31pm] MassKopimiPP: whats the freedom rally? [9:31pm] Bluestreak: step up ppl important event, lots of exposure [9:31pm] MassKopimiPP: im new to mass in general so excuse my ignorance guys [9:31pm] Bluestreak: Boston's version og HempFest [9:31pm] oneiros: Also -where- is it... oh [9:31pm] Bluestreak: of [9:31pm] Bluestreak: on the common [9:31pm] JCFiero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Rally [9:31pm] oneiros: Nevermind - need to steer clear of raves [9:32pm] Bluestreak: orly? OK [9:32pm] jokeefe: way more tame than a rave [9:32pm] Bluestreak: Just ppl at tables [9:32pm] jokeefe: anyone able to write up a post on us being there? [9:32pm] Bluestreak: and stoners blazing [9:32pm] Igel: there will be metal bands. [9:32pm] Bluestreak: Yeah, this is out baby [9:32pm] Igel: waaf goes, etc.. [9:32pm] Bluestreak: our [9:33pm] Bluestreak: I will get one out tonight [9:33pm] Bluestreak: If Jason feeds me [9:33pm] Bluestreak: :-DDD [9:33pm] Bluestreak: lol [9:34pm] jokeefe: need a form. will set one up for you. [9:34pm] MassKopimiPP: id love to help at FR but I may be in NY visiting family [9:34pm] jokeefe: for those not on face book [9:34pm] Bluestreak: jokeefe form for me? [9:34pm] oneiros: Form? [9:34pm] jokeefe: for the FR post [9:34pm] jokeefe: sign up [9:34pm] Bluestreak: OK I'll be waiting on you [9:35pm] MassKopimiPP: im a maybe for freedom rally [9:35pm] jokeefe: Boston Software Freedom Day is Sat., Sept. 21st, 10:00 - 11:00 Protect Your Privacy in the Digital Age, by srevilak [9:36pm] jokeefe: great MassKopimiPP [9:36pm] jokeefe: you got a website MassKopimiPP [9:36pm] jokeefe: ? [9:36pm] Bluestreak: Sure hope you can help table. [9:37pm] Igel: srevilak: i thought that was tomorrow ----^ [9:37pm] jokeefe: I will be there Sunday at least [9:37pm] Igel: saying yo were going o be pretty busy [9:37pm] jokeefe: Not sure what Sat. schedule is yet [9:38pm] jokeefe: Sept is busy [9:39pm] Bluestreak: So long as you can spell us for a couple of hours on Sunday, that would be great [9:39pm] jokeefe: srevilak, LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting is 9/28, roughly? [9:39pm] jokeefe: will do, Bluestreak [9:39pm] jokeefe: hopefully more [9:40pm] srevilak: jokeefe: you mean linux meeting with Will Rico? [9:40pm] Bluestreak: OK we may have a conflict the weekend of the 28th. [9:40pm] jokeefe: yes [9:40pm] Bluestreak: Jason and I have a thing in NH [9:40pm] jokeefe: good for you [9:40pm] srevilak: 9/28 is cjdns cryptoparty [9:40pm] Bluestreak: I KNOW [9:40pm] Bluestreak: We really wanted to do that! [9:40pm] jokeefe: ok, sorry, I was confused [9:41pm] Bluestreak: No we have a conflict [9:41pm] Bluestreak: OK wait [9:41pm] Bluestreak: NVM [9:41pm] Bluestreak: No we are commited to the thing in NH [9:41pm] srevilak: jokeefe: you're speaking to boston linux desktop group on Nov 6th [9:43pm] jokeefe: Do you have details on the cjdns cryptoparty? I cannot find them in my email [9:43pm] srevilak: It's 9/28. I have to work on logistics. Will do this weekend [9:43pm] Igel: sunday you should have em [9:44pm] oneiros: Please keep me in the loop on the cjdns gig [9:44pm] MassKopimiPP: so the next cryptoparty is 9/28? [9:44pm] jokeefe: yes, after the one on Sat. [9:44pm] Igel: following this saturday [9:44pm] srevilak: MassKopimiPP: yes 9/28. cjdns cryptoparty [9:44pm] jokeefe: ok, last of the events - Digital Media Conference, Cambridge, Oct. 25-27 [9:45pm] jokeefe: Meeting with Jason tomorrow. [9:45pm] jokeefe: to talk logistics [9:45pm] Bluestreak: That looks to be really cool [9:45pm] Bluestreak: You need ppl to table right? [9:45pm] jokeefe: probably, and be on panels, do crypto party, etc. [9:46pm] jokeefe: panel suggestions? [9:46pm] jokeefe: here is the link to it - http://digitalmediaconference.org/2013/ [9:46pm] Igel: cool [9:47pm] Kendra: NSA Nightmares, Bradley Manning Verdict, Freedom of the Press Under the Surveillance state [9:47pm] srevilak: jokeefe: we could talk about `alternatives'. e.g. https://prism-break.org/ [9:48pm] srevilak: What would it take for _you_ to dump your NSA-compliant service provider? [9:48pm] oneiros: I would suggest a panel on educating the new generations as a part of general curriculum, but I couldn't offer to actually give such a panel, so... [9:48pm] Bluestreak: I am also interested in "the fifth estate" [9:48pm] Bluestreak: The new journalism [9:48pm] jokeefe: good ideas [9:49pm] Bluestreak: War on whistleblowers [9:49pm] jokeefe: Seeing that Jason is in the fourth/fifth estate, it will be covered [9:49pm] srevilak: Taking your data elsewhere as a form of civil disobedience [9:49pm] oneiros: Upping the SNR as civil disobedience? [9:50pm] srevilak: oneiros: SNR? [9:50pm] Bluestreak: Not many ppl can move their data easily srevilak [9:50pm] oneiros: Signal-to-noise-ratio [9:50pm] Bluestreak: Still don't know what you mean oneiros [9:50pm] Igel: interference [9:50pm] Kendra: Protocol for Activists Using the Online Services Under the Surveillance State [9:50pm] oneiros: Ok, well, simple way is that all the surveillance that goes on does so at a digital level - heuristics tools and algorithms and such [9:51pm] Igel: which is this Kendra? [9:51pm] Igel: sounds centralized [9:51pm] oneiros: So instead of hiding everything from the NSA, Google, etc, you intentionally give them massive amounts of noise [9:51pm] Kendra: Just suggesting panel topics for the digital conference [9:51pm] jokeefe: could also ask the panelists from Government Power in 2020 and Open Government to be on panels [9:51pm] MassKopimiPP: Attack on alternative sources of media http://www.vice.com/read/the-new-media-shield-law-only-shields-corporate-media [9:51pm] Igel: its relevant [9:51pm] oneiros: Searching things you don't care about, +1'ing and Liking and Retweeting garbage [9:52pm] jokeefe: good suggestions, I'll bring them up and see which ones they like. [9:52pm] Bluestreak: Exactly MassKopimiPP [9:52pm] Igel: what about TT? [9:53pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: agreed. Moving data is not easy. So, what will sufficiently motivate people to do it? [9:53pm] Bluestreak: what a time sink oneiros [9:53pm] oneiros: Teaching them how easy moving data actually is? [9:53pm] jokeefe: peer pressure [9:53pm] oneiros: Bluestreak: It can easily be automated [9:53pm] Bluestreak: Making it easy for them srevilak [9:53pm] oneiros: Firefox plugin "DoNotTrack" is one way [9:53pm] • Igel lost waht moving data [9:54pm] Bluestreak: I smell a crypto party! [9:54pm] Igel: is it on the site? [9:54pm] Igel: heh...